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02-12-2008 06:37 AM

Topic tags/keywords: walnut perennials guild

This is a GATEWAY to everything posted at GardenTenders.com tagged as “walnut”

Feel free to add any info (technical or practical) here as well.
 

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Under The Walnut Tree
Due to the toxins in the walnut tree, it is very picky about what can grow around it.

I found this site and thought that it would be of interest

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)



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Greenthumb

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02-12-2008 08:08 AM

I’ve planted hundreds of walnuts…....had one grow to about a foot and the young lad ran the lawnmower over it despite the flourescent green wooden stake beside it. I now keep the seedlings in pots.

thanks for the link albeit I will long be dead before my trees are big enough to give out some shade

Cheers

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02-12-2008 09:48 AM

making a living from trees, I feel obligated to put back more, then I use.

Desertjed….......you hit the nail on the head. I give away lots of trees and the reforestation of this place (in some spots) and the cottage is just one more hobby of mine.

-- just one more rock, and the garden is done ; )

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02-12-2008 10:00 AM

there are always 1000 little seedlings popping up under our maple tree. But I’ve never looked under the walnut to see if anything has survived the squirrels.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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Greenthumb

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02-12-2008 10:12 AM

Take the nuts before the squirrels get them. I push the nut more then halfway its diameter into a pot of soil, then put chicken wire over the pot to keep that vermin out it. That said, it is often the squirrels that do some re-forestation, burying the acorns and walnuts and forgetting where they buried them.

Seems to work. Funny thing but theres a rabbit here, probably quite a few rabbits that chew my seedlings in the winter…...........they never chew the walnut, they much prefer the expensive Japanese Maples.

-- just one more rock, and the garden is done ; )

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02-12-2008 11:13 AM

Yah, come to think of it I never saw any seedlings from our HUGE and very loved, Black Walnut tree. It would make sense that you would have to get the nuts BEFORE the squirrels got to them … but what a battle that would have been!!

Me, I LOVED the smell the tree gave off. I always knew summer had arrived when I could walk out our front door and smell that great big wonderful tree.

Kind of silly, but I also felt like she protected our house and family from harm … her canopy arched well over our two story home.

-- "A beautiful garden is a work of heart" --

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02-12-2008 12:05 PM

we had a “clump” of 3 or 4 large (really large) walnut trees behind our house when I was growing up.
We had a swing tied to the one and a hammock tied to the other… and yes, they were our giant protectors.

The tornado of ‘79 took them down. I miss them. Filled with memories.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-27-2010 06:38 PM

From the book reviewed here,
creating a “walnut /hackberry guild”, includes: (they work together and everything benefits)
  • walnut tree
  • hackberry
  • wolfberry
  • currants
  • tomato and pepper plants

The HACKBERRY: all I find are huge trees. Although it seems the trees are very slow growing, I don’t think it is a tree that is being referred to.

Other COMPATIBLE PLANTS: Cedar, crab apple, elm, forsythia, hawthorn, hemlock, black locust and most maple trees will live in compatibility with black walnut trees. Ground covers such as pachysandra and virginia creeper will thrive when planted under walnut trees. Flowers and grasses that tolerate walnut trees include daffodils, ferns, narcissus, phlox and Kentucky bluegrass. (from this site)

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-27-2010 06:39 PM

Debbie, I don’t believe the heartnut tree produces juglone, at least not the same intensity as the black walnut, so my challenge won’t be as difficult. For example, I can grow azaleas, rhododendrons, peonies, bulbs, etc. without any problems under and around the heartnut. I just would like to be able to choose plants that grow together better.

Doesn’t the wolfberry plant sound interesting?

-- "...I have nothing against authorities as such; I am only in favor of putting a question mark after just about everything they say." Ruth Stout

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01-27-2010 06:42 PM

and these: Cherry, Crabapple, Elm, Hawthorn, Locust, Maple, Red Cedar Kentucky bluegrass, Clover Wild grape, Black raspberry
(from this site)

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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jroot

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01-27-2010 06:43 PM

My wife’s aunt had a massive tree that they planted in Burlington which was not the typical black walnut, but rather some sort of carolinian walnut which was very edible and more like the ones we get at Christmas time here.

-- jroot ....... Southern Ontario .......... grow zone 5A ...................."Gardening is an exercise in optimism." ....... . . Author Unknown

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01-27-2010 06:47 PM

I didn’t realize that the wolfberry was the Goji berry! I’ve used goji berries in my fruit breads and other cooking stuff.
It’s already on my list for this year. I received a great flyer that has some unique plants in it. (Henry Fields)

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-27-2010 06:49 PM

the walnut tree that I have is supposedly a “Hungarian Walnut” (my husband’s mom gave it to him years and years ago). It has survived the rototiller, the lawnmower, several storm damages.. and keeps growing. It would be nice to have a lovey little garden to honour Joe’s Hungarian heritage.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-27-2010 06:50 PM

Heartnut – my brother has a dozen or more heartnuts on his property and we have 3 trees growing now (hopefully) – that’s what the deer dug up last year.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-28-2010 03:02 AM

DWARF HACKBERRY found here

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-28-2010 05:43 AM

I have yet to find a good answer on how long the juglones last. The site mentioned first states that the roots are the producers. But what about this sawdust thing? Can it be composted, will the juglones dissipate, etc. I have a large source of sawdust, but, we do use alot of walnut. I’m trying to use it but want to know more about the juglones.

-- arborial reconfiguration specialist......Zone out....(USA 5)

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Greenthumb

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01-28-2010 06:49 AM

I put walnut shavings in the garden once…...........the tomatos were all really wierd looking, so were the plants and the carrots looked so disfigured no one would eat them

-- just one more rock, and the garden is done ; )

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MsDebbieP

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01-28-2010 06:50 AM

Catspaw : I didn’t find any information that would be helpful. Sorry

I did find another list of “tolerant” plants.

also this:
Kentucky bluegrass and black raspberries seem to thrive when planted near black walnuts. If there is enough sun, you can try squash, melons, beans, beets and carrots.

Possible flowers include most spring bulbs and woodland dwellers like jack-in-the-pulpit, sweet woodruff and cranesbill. Hostas, asters, day lilies, coral bells and Siberian iris are likely bets. Euonymous usually does O.K., and so do Japanese maples, viburnums and hemlocks.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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Radicalfarmergal

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01-28-2010 07:59 AM

Thank you for the hackberry link, Debbie.

-- "...I have nothing against authorities as such; I am only in favor of putting a question mark after just about everything they say." Ruth Stout

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MsDebbieP

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01-28-2010 09:36 AM

according to the Gaia book, if I’ve interpreted it correctly, when you plant the hackberry by the walnut tree, it creates an environment that tomatoes can tolerate..

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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01-28-2010 04:40 PM

Now THAT is interesting. Thanks.

-- jroot ....... Southern Ontario .......... grow zone 5A ...................."Gardening is an exercise in optimism." ....... . . Author Unknown

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MsDebbieP

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03-22-2011 07:23 AM

looking for plants to join my trees together into garden plots, I went to my 'Native Plants' website (Acorus Restoration) to find what tolerates the walnut tree

These are some of the plants listed, those that are already in my gardens (but not necessarily by my walnut tree):
  • American Bittersweet
  • American Chestnut
  • Bloodroot
  • Cranberries
  • Flowering Dogwood
  • Pagoda Dogwood
  • Hackberry Bush
  • Kentucky Coffee Tree
  • PawPaw Tree
  • Tulip Tree
  • Virginia Creeper
  • Heart-Leafed Willow

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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04-06-2012 02:41 AM

there is a HUGE list of compatible plants on this site

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

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