Help with vine ideas for our new trellis???

wish I could help. I’m a garden-dabbler and don’t have too much “expertise”.

I wonder if you could train a euonymus to climb and not go bushy?
honeysuckle is nice too.. I think there are some that are evergreen.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a) http://www.execulink.com/~yohan

oh.. i found this online: Winter Jasmine … hardy in Zone 6.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a) http://www.execulink.com/~yohan

Euonymus can definitely climb, if you get the correct variety. I have it climbing a wall at the back of my place.

-- jroot

Maybe silver lace vine.They get really thick for privacy and grow fast.

-- Bon,Hastings,Ont.....zone 5a....Always room for one more

Unless you’re farther south than me, there are no evergreen vines. At least not that I know of. Any Euonymus I’d seen aren’t exactly climbers either, though they can be soooo easily shaped. Not the fastest growers though.

Anyway, I spent a 2 week long debate on rec.gardens over evergreen vines and came up empty.

Not sure about Winter Jasmine, but Jasmine by nature is highly aggressive and will put out plenty of runners.. It’s up there with Trumpet vine on my list of annoyances.

So… What planting zone are you in, anyway?

I’ve always been a huge fan of Clematis. They come in several flavors and are grouped into three ranges (1, 2 & 3.. Not creative naming).. Some groups need no care and flower over old and new growth. Some need to be pruned back.. And some are best chopped down to the ground at the end of the year.

So before I can really say anything as to a suggestion, a zone would sure be handy.. ;)

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

My Euonymous at the back is now about 6 feet tall. I got it from a lady who had it growing about 8 feet tall. ... and that is in zone 5 Canada. However, most are kind of shrubby and don’t grow tall at all. One really has to do some research as to what kind one is getting. Alas, I cannot tell you the name, as she merely cut off a piece and gave it to me to root.

-- jroot

Hi Everyone…thanks for the advice…we are Zone 9 in Napa, CA.

We have been looking at a lot of vines…we actually bought a Pink Blower Vine…and two plants of Carolina Jessamine.

Unfortunately when we got back from the nursery we read in many places online that the Yellow Carolina Jessamine—-which met everything we wanted…it was highly poisonous—-all parts not just flowers and seeds…

It scared us since we have a 3 year old (and 7 yr old)...while they are rarely in the back yard with out us we just did not want to take a chance since several sites mentioned how young kids and pets can die with ingestion…

So we took the carolina back…

I am now looking closely at Violet Trumpet Vine which the various sites say is evergreen and will be nice…

ANy thoughts or warnings on it would be great…

I will look up Euonymous…

thanks…matt

-- Matt

The Violet Trumpet Vine looks quite nice. You’ll enjoy it. Dave’s Garden says:

Height: 20-30 ft. (6-9 m)

Spacing: 10-12 ft. (3-3.6 m)

Hardiness: USDA Zone 8a: to 11

Sun Exposure: Sun to Partial Shade

Danger: Seed is poisonous if ingested

Bloom Color: Violet/Lavender, Purple

Bloom Time: Late Spring/Early Summer

Foliage: Evergreen, Smooth-Textured

Other details: Average Water Needs; Water regularly; do not overwater

Propagation Methods: From softwood cuttings, From semi-hardwood cuttings, Scarify seed before sowing,
By simple layering, By air layering, By serpentine layering,

Seed Collecting: Allow pods to dry on plant; break open to collect seeds

A lot of plants have poisonous leafs, or seeds. It can’t be avoided. I guess it is time to “train” the youngsters and pets what to avoid. I know that I was trained, and certainly trained my son, and it wasn’t that hard.

-- jroot

true jroot…the kids are old enough to train and we arent toooo worried about the 3 yr old…but it was that the jessamine had bigger warnings…one site said every part of the plant…another said young children have been to die—as opposed to just getting sick…one site even said BEES dont go near it and it also can cause skin irritation for some people—-and since we will be sitting up against it we decided we should keep looking…

we are thinking of a puppy in the next year…so it scared us away…the nursery had no problem with us returning it…we did keep the pink blower vine…

I saw the daves garden post—-some reason the fact that its just the seeds seemed a little less scary…

thanks!

-- Matt

Matt and Sarah

You may have already chosen something, but I thought for future reference you should know that you absolutely can train a euyonomous (sp) to climb. I have done it before! Good luck with your search and I hope you find something to suit your needs.

I just planted a Trumpet Vine, I have a Climbing Hydrangea, I have a Passion flower. Cemetis.
All are very nice, I love vines.
Wysteria is lovely but it takes awhile to grow flowers.

-- If you always do what you always did, then you will always get what you always got!...Lanoka Harbor, NJ 6b

Thanks…we ended up buyiing two red trumpet vines…they were in small one gallon pots…but just putting them up on the bench of the trellis against the posts…and some flowers in the bench opening really brought some nice color in…

Will add some pictures later…

-- Matt

Good chooce, it will look wonderful

-- If you always do what you always did, then you will always get what you always got!...Lanoka Harbor, NJ 6b

I think that is a good choice also. The trellis looks strong enough to hold them. Be aware, that it can be invasive, so you might have to yank some runners out. I like the vine though.

-- jroot

we are planning to keep them in large pots sitting behind the trellis structure. We were told that in pots they would NOT be able to grow to their full size which in this case we were thinking would be a good thing…which is why we have three different plants (2 trumpet and 1 white bower).

matt

-- Matt

sounds like a plan. ... a good one, at that. You will have to think of a way to change the soil in the pot, once established, or at least add nutrients to the soil in the pot.

-- jroot

oooh…see we are novices at the planting of vines…can it be amended from the top of the pot…

at the nursery they insisted we use straight potting soil in the pots to start and not manure or amended soil…she said ( I am probably getting the reasoning wrong) it would be too strong to put soil/manure combo in the pot on young vines…i think that was the reasoning…

we have not planted them yet…since i want to stain the bench and treillis…then once the wood has some protection we will plant…

matt

-- Matt

Do you realize that although they are a vine over the years the “trunks” get very large and if you plant in containers, these must be very large. Possibly the vines might break the containers and cause more problems.
You just might have to dig a large hole and slip the plant in in a few years but that will cause a new problem the vine will be securely stuck on the trellis and you will now have to build up the soil level.
IMHO, I suggest that you just plant them in the ground the way you planned.
All plants grow differently and nothing may happen but I would hate to find that lesson the hard way.
Another way would be the plant them in containers and bury the containers in the ground eliminating most problems. And as jroot says you can just ferilize them from the top, there is really no need then to replace the soil. This will also eliminate those runners that invade everything.
My neighbor just called me over to show that a runner came up in the middle of his lawn. :o)
Good luck it all will work fine and will look beautiful.
Ro

-- If you always do what you always did, then you will always get what you always got!...Lanoka Harbor, NJ 6b