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walthree

32 posts in 2951 days
hardiness zone 6b

03-19-2010 07:56 AM

This is my first stab at a vegetable garden. I have read about composting but I never realized how long it takes to make it. I need to start getting my soil ready and I can’t find the stuff anywhere and the free giveaway of the stuff doesn’t happen until May-July. I wanted to know how else can I prepare my soil without it. Is there something else I can do?



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DavesYard

304 posts in 2937 days
hardiness zone 5b

03-19-2010 08:14 AM

Check your garden centers, even Home Depot, Wal-mart, etc should sell bags of compost.

In our zone, Southern Ontario, the big box stores have not stocked their nurseries yet, but will soon.

You can mix the bagged compost into your soil and plant all on the same day. It wont burn your plants. The only thing that really burns plants, afaik, is fresh manure.

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Bon

7374 posts in 3660 days
hardiness zone 5a

03-19-2010 08:23 AM

You could start getting your soil ready by adding some good cow or sheep manure and peat moss.Add the compost later when you can find some.

-- Bon,Hastings,Ont.....zone 5a....Always room for one more

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Snowdog

38 posts in 3758 days

03-19-2010 08:58 AM

I have to figure out how to fill an 8×3 x3 raised planter (maybe 2), what a challenge.

-- Some much to learn and so little time!!

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DavesYard

304 posts in 2937 days
hardiness zone 5b

03-19-2010 03:01 PM

I am doing 3 beds that are 6 by 4 by 1ft. To make it simple, i’ll pretend it’s one big garden that is 6ft wide by 12ft long by 1ft deep.

6×12x1 = 72 cubic feet.

Since there are 3 feet in a yard, and soil is delivered in yards, we must divide by 3, 3 times.

72 / 3 = 24.
24 / 3 = 8.
8 / 3 = 2.66

Therefore I need 2.66 cubic yards of soil to fill my garden(s).

I plan on ordering 2 cubic yards of triple mix, and then mixing in some bags of compost and other ammendments to get it to the right height, consistency, and nutritional value.

For your 8×3x3, you will need:

8×3x3 = 72 cubic feet (same as mine)

So you will need 2.66 cubic yards per bed.

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jroot

5121 posts in 3510 days
hardiness zone 5a

03-19-2010 03:55 PM

Dave is right. A 8’x3’x3’ (72 cubic feet) bed will need 2.66 cubic yards of soil (A cubic yard is 3’x3’x3’ is 27cubic feet). I would order more ( at least 3 cubic yards), because you can always use the extra to top dress your other beds, or your lawn. Also there will be some settling. Also when ordering a cubic yard, the measurement is not always 100% accurate.

-- jroot ....... Southern Ontario .......... grow zone 5A ...................."Gardening is an exercise in optimism." ....... . . Author Unknown

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Iris43

3811 posts in 3510 days
hardiness zone 5a

03-19-2010 06:33 PM

Dave, if you are buying triple mix, you really don’t need to mix it with anything else. Triple mix should have everything your plants need.

-- 'To plant a Garden is to believe in Tomorrow'

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StarrsWife

36 posts in 2964 days
hardiness zone 7

03-20-2010 12:35 AM

I am planting in a circle shape garden this year, in the hole left when we took the pool down…. it is the levelest area in my steeply sloped backyard, and with no real soil here, just red clay and silt it’s the perfect (SOUTH) spot to just fill with topsoil or something. The pool was 18ft diam. and 2ft deep on one end and 1 ft deep at the other….the bottom is level though, it’s on the south of my property and there isn’t any grass or weeds growing….how would I figure what to order? I plan on buying riverbottom soil, it’s known in these parts as PERFECT SOIL…........

-- Jessica~ Oklahoma zone 7 “A genius always presents himself as a fool” ~Anon.

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Radicalfarmergal

4312 posts in 3143 days
hardiness zone 5b

03-20-2010 07:30 AM

Jessica, you didn’t mention how deep you wanted the soil to be. If you wanted the soil to be a foot deep, you would need approximately 255 square feet, or 9.5 cubic yards, of river bottom soil. That is a large quantity of soil. You could probably just spread the soil six inches deep unless you are planting root vegetables. Five cubic yards would be sufficient to give you a six inch depth across the entire circle with a bit left over.

-- "...I have nothing against authorities as such; I am only in favor of putting a question mark after just about everything they say." Ruth Stout

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jroot

5121 posts in 3510 days
hardiness zone 5a

03-20-2010 03:19 PM

Go back to your grade 7 & 8 geometry classes. The area of a circle is approx 3.14 X the radius squared, so in your case 3.14 X 9 X 9 = 254 square feet. Robin is correct, in that you need to determine how deep you want the bed to me. If you want it to be 1 foot deep, then divide 254 sq ft by 3’X3’X3” or 27. That makes 254 divided by 27 which is about 9.5 cubic yard. A lot of dump trucks carry 8 yards, so one truck load would give you enough for a bed almost a foot deep. You will have to check how large the trucks are though.

edited: Oops, I just read ALL of Robin’s post. I was somewhat redundant. LOL

-- jroot ....... Southern Ontario .......... grow zone 5A ...................."Gardening is an exercise in optimism." ....... . . Author Unknown

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