Small Pond

Dig deeper! DEEPER!!!! :)

Is it a liner, or preformed?

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

It is a liner!Doesn’t look like it but it is about 20” deep!
Except for the pile of dirt still in the middle

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

You building a pond?

I think it going to look just terrific

as for carrots, finding them now, I have heard they are better left in the ground over winter

Something like parsnips

Oh my I love parsnips

-- NS Zone 5B 200 KM East of Halifax cheers Bunting------Having a place to go – is a home. Having someone to love – is a family.

WOW,, you were one BUSY LADY today!!!!! Looking good “E”!!

Love the “Mask Pole” ... !!!!!

-- "A perfect garden is just a garden to be in-perfection. Mornings to work on it and evenings to pause and look at it." Southeast Michigan, Zone 5a/5b

cool
cool
cool
and
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-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

All of this to “beautify’ the front of the woodshed.
I will be using the woodshed to grow my lufta, gourds and other climbing plants.
I am preparing the soil by burying my composting matters directly in the soil!The little worms just love it!

yes Bunting, the carrots are better like this!
I have a brother who lives up northwest of Quebec, and they sow theirs in September and have carrots all winter long.
They also do winter sowing directly in the ground late in the Fall and have very early carrots!!

I also love parsnips!!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Finally pictures…..someone has been busy :-) Love the pole with the faces and birdhouse

-- Hooked on Gardening.....Ontario zone 5b

Ya, I have them all over this site!!
About all that does interest me that is connected one way or the other with gardening, environment….

Thanks, the faces are concrete sculptures and the birdhouse was made by my dad. As well, I have a matching feeder!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Eklectic, I have been going through all of what you have posted so far!!Very interesting!

You are lucky to have things made by your father!!

-- poisoncontrol, there is to much poison in the world: let's eradicate it!

Eklectic
Seeing your progress makes me think I should really put one in this year.Are you going to have a pump in yours.I really have to learn more about them.

-- Southwestern Ontario Canada Zone5b

Please keep us updated. I know nothing about ponds but thoroughly enjoy others. Will you
be having fish or pond plants only. Wow, lots of work though and you are to be complemented, EK.

-- blooz 5b - You can bury a lot of troubles digging in the dirt. ~author unkown

That’s some fine digging, E! Keep up the good work!

-- Living on the square...Metro Detroit

Thank ya all!
Just about done evening the bottom and the first shelve!
Tomorrow, putting the carpets down and the liner!
The carpet are to protect the liner from rocks and other such things that might rip it up!

And yes there will be a pump and for fish, well that is still undecided as we also, for those who have been here for a while know, have the marsh that will be worked on over the next few weeks (hopefully) into a deep and wide pond!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

I want a pond!
I think you are inspiring me.
Robin

-- Robin282, Zone 7, SE Coast of MA, USA

Robin282 go ahead and have fun!

As a follow up on the POND SAGA, after I’d finish leveling the whole thing as well as the shelf around the pond,hubby got home and said that there was rain on the forecast for tomorrow! So I panicked and decided we had to put the carpet and the liner down as I did not want the rain to “destroy” all my work and then we had to put some water in it just to see and then try the pump and…

*So here is what it looked like at 7pm tonight!

I must admit I was quite thrilled! I like it and I am quite proud of myself so far!!!!
As we all know, the rain was my excuse for putting down the liner! Was curious!!
And now, I know what I have to do next: remove the liner and fill some corner and and and….

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Someone’s jumping the gun. Get your sides secured before you play with fountains, eh.. ;)

Good work though.. :)

What is that, 45 mil?

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

Was so much fun!!!hahaha :-)

Think so, cant remember now, will have to check in daylight!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

LOL.. I can imagine..

Most I got done today was burning off some brush and tree trimmings. Son and I pruned the dead mater out of the apple trees in the back.. Well.. I did the chainsaw.. He pulled the small branches.

Got to check on the fire in a min.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

Well, I am going to go have a big thick (one and one half inch) toasted slice of homemade raisin bread to pat myself on the back.
Hope you have something similar (to your taste) for your own pat. That is hard work you did today!!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Surely you don’t mean me? Hard work? I dumped lighter fluid on a pile of sticks and lit it.. ;)

Oh.. I did move some of the Peonies around that are super huge now, plus dug out a patch of Black Eyed Susans.. But I don’t consider that work.. It’s more play than anything.

Sadly.. The garden pitch fork didn’t fair well against the Peonies root system and I ended up snapping the head off. I’d say cheap POS, but it wasn’t a cheap POS at all. Rather disappointing.

Anyway, back to your pond.. Do a gallon estimation yet? Plan to put a few fish in? Plants I’m certainly assuming.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

what is the building purpose in behind the pond?

-- Central northish Ontario

Looks like a 2 bay lean-to wood shed built off of something else? Either way, thar be alot of wood.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

Busy, busy lady!!!! I’m impressed with all the digging you have done (wow lot of dirt you moved!!!). Seriously “E” it is looking great!!!! :-)

-- "A perfect garden is just a garden to be in-perfection. Mornings to work on it and evenings to pause and look at it." Southeast Michigan, Zone 5a/5b

Scott you are right!
And if you remember the”How we feel trees here”, what you see there is the wood from the 3 trees that came down that day!
AS far as fish or plant, only a few plants as we do not have the space in our very small house to winterize them and fish will go in the marsh pond which we hope to have done by June.
And guys, we plan a natural pond that will be about 20’x20’ with a depth of a minimum of 8’-10’. Any ideas?Thoughts?

Hi GranT,
Thanks! I think it looks neat and it is fun to see it grow! But my back might ask for a respite today!
Not as young as used to be!!!:-)

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

And guys, we plan a natural pond that will be about 20’x20’ with a depth of a minimum of 8’-10’. Any ideas?Thoughts?

Ideas or thoughts on what aspect of a 20×20x10 pond?

It’s going to have some shear sides at 10’ deep which may collapse. Talking liner, or clay pack hole in the ground?

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

cement swimming pool? :)

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

The soil is clay, as far as we know??
And it will be with shelves, still in the planning stages. I am hoping for 2 “shelves” under water, that would go all around either that or a very gradual slope???
Still have to talk to the machine operators: they both have lived here all their lives so they know more about the soil composition, but would like a lot of ideas as I want to look like I know what I am talking about!!!!

As well as understand what they are saying!!

PS I am saying 20×20x10 and hubby sees it much bigger!!!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

For stability I’d think a single shelf all the way around and then a gradual slope and cup at the bottom. It’s be less important at 8’ deep however. Also the bank will need to slope for wildlife access such as turtles, frogs and such.

Problem is since it’s a linerless pond, there’s nothing to hold any soil breakdown in place hydraulically. Eventually regardless of what you do you’ll have some slump which will start filling the center depth up.

The excavators in your area will indeed know the soil better and will be able to say what degree slope would be stable.

So hubby wants it bigger? May be just as well to make it 30×30x10.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

I’m assuming that it will be a round’ish pond since it’s al natural.

At 20’ diameter and an average depth of 8’ you’ve got 18802 gallons or 71175 liters
At 30’ diameter and an average depth of 8’ you’ve got 42304 gallons or 160142 liters

Since it’s a static pond and will be a wildlife haven I’d say go wider, indeed. You can see above how a short distance change causes a dramatic increase in volume.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

SCOTT
thanks a lot for all the info.
And I do like the biggest one as well, but if I say so, he might go even bigger and I want to keep a lot of natural setting.::-)

As it is, I will have to dig out tons of wild irises and grasses to replant and a few others that seem to be growing only in that “marsh” setting, even when it is “dry”!

If you have more info or anybody else for that matter, please I will try to absorb all your wisdom!:-)

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Well, I am still working on the small pond, a little bit at a time (hard on old back).
So here is an update:

Still debating about goldfish!
In the meantime, I am planting a little bit every day!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

looking good!! LOVE your leaves especially that big one in the centre WOO HOO

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

Very nice…First time I noticed this thread…Great work!

-- Xploreorganics, 5b Canada, LFD 06-20

Goldfish are awful in a big pond. They are like vermen, pruduse tens of thousands of offspring. This spring the FIL’s ponds was just a wretched stench from all the dead goldfish, too many and the oxygen supply gets used up and they die.

Scott has great advice and to add. The deeper the pond, the less sunlight reaches the bottom, the less algae you get

good luck

-- Central northish Ontario

Wow … i can see the progress ‘E’. It’s shaping up very nicely. One dig at a time and watch
your back. ;-)

-- blooz 5b - You can bury a lot of troubles digging in the dirt. ~author unkown

Love all your cement work surrounding the pond … and I’m with MsDeb … love the big, beautiful leaf!!! :-)

-- "A perfect garden is just a garden to be in-perfection. Mornings to work on it and evenings to pause and look at it." Southeast Michigan, Zone 5a/5b

I’d seen how to do the leaves in a “free” issue of “Garden Gate” that I got, somehow… Very cool indeed. If I can get a BIG leaf, I’ll be making a few..

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

Scott
You will need more than one big leaf to make a few. And have fun with it, I really enjoy it!

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Yesterday I went on a trip, not as fun as MsD’s, a trip to the dentist!!!
When I go the dentist, I usually “reward” myself (do not freeze) and this time I got 2 plants for the small pond:
Heuchera, Coral Bells, ”Palace Purple”!

Hemerocallis, Daylily, ”Catherine Woodbury”

And I am going back tomorrow, so I guess I will have to reward myself again!!!:)

-- Eklectic, Follow my Bliss, South East Ontario 5a

Pretty, pretty, pretty!!! Nice reward!!!!!!!!

-- "A perfect garden is just a garden to be in-perfection. Mornings to work on it and evenings to pause and look at it." Southeast Michigan, Zone 5a/5b

haha and you should reward yourself for GOING as well as for STAYING.. so that’s double the rewards!!! :)

GORGEOUS

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

Gorheous plants! I have that huechera, although nowhere near that size. I love the color of that daylily!

-- the day you quit learning is the day you quit living.

Eh, Eklectic, you get this planted out yet? Would love to see it.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

Your pond turned out really nice E.Congratulations.Love the colour of the plants too.Nice reward.(lol)

-- Bon,Hastings,Ont.....zone 5a