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Blog entry by nitepagan posted 01-05-2014 07:19 PM 1782 reads 1 time favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 11: It's Finally Done Part 12 of Barn Greenhouse series Part 13: After The Winter »

Oh-Oh, So far we have had a brutal winter, my northern friends have had it a bit tougher. I was going to wait till spring to mention this, but it’s January, I know the sun is starting to get higher in the sky, well at least in my heart it is. But, I should not spare you the events that have happened. So, I am going to spill the beans.

We had this ice storm, I had thought we had survived it ok, but when I went out to look, I found the vinyl covering had been torn in several places. At this time, I will have to wait until spring to do repairs. The main part of the roof appears to be in good shape, but will wait until spring for the final decision on that part of the roof.

I have decided I will replace the vinyl with the rigid corrugated roofing panels, I used SunTuff panels, and will purchase enough to do both sides of the building. I will also add cedar boards at the base of the GH to provide better protection at the very base of the greenhouse.

The ends of the greenhouse appear to be in good condition, though I am thinking I should also replace the vinyl on the ends. I think I will wait on the ends of the greenhouse and see how they fair through the summer.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)



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posted 01-05-2014 08:14 PM

it looks great. I find it harder when that white blanket of snow weighs in on the equation of a very distant spring.

-- just one more rock, and the garden is done ; )

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posted 01-06-2014 01:25 PM

Northern winters are evidently too tough for vinyl. I wish your greenhouse could have been spared the damage but at least a more durable greenhouse will be the end result. I hope that the SunTuff panels work better for you than the vinyl did. Keep warm!

-- "...I have nothing against authorities as such; I am only in favor of putting a question mark after just about everything they say." Ruth Stout

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posted 05-29-2014 04:10 AM

Love your greenhouse! If I was aloud to build one on our small lot here in our subdivision I would be taking lessons from you! I’m sure you will find the right solution to make it survive the next winter.
Nice work!
Tony

-- Type-0's are normal for me! St Augustine Florida

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posted 05-29-2014 02:18 PM

I am in the process of rehabbing the GH right now. Here is a pic.

The west side is completed and I am now working on the east side. Eventually I will also redo the covering on the ends of the GH, north and south sides. Where the vinyl touches the wood, it stays wet and never dries out. I can’t let that continue as the wood will rot in no time. I plan to use the same material, suntuf roofing panels on the side. At the very bottom of the GH is Smart Siding, a product similar to T1-11, it comes with what they call primed, but it is a pretty durable layer of paint. I use the Smart Siding a lot around my place.

Up here in Maine, I own two acres in a very rural location, I am afforded a lot of liberties here, that are not available elsewhere in the US. But the downside is the harsh winters and living on the edge of a woodland forest. A dream come true for some, others might see it as a curse.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)

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posted 05-29-2014 05:24 PM

Steve,
I Was thinking about how heavy the snow can get up there in the winter. I’m originally from Massachusetts so I know how bad it can get up there. Would covering the GH with 1/4” wire mesh screen and then adding the Sun Roof panels help with the snow load? Just an idea I had.
Our house is sided on 3 sides with that smart board. It’s great stuff. I also used it when I built our shed.
We had wooded 2.5 acres lot when we lived up there and I do miss that but I don’t miss the cold at all.
Nice job on fixing that GH!
Tony

-- Type-0's are normal for me! St Augustine Florida

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posted 05-29-2014 06:42 PM

Tony, the Suntuf panels did fine during the winter, I did use a snow rake when the snow got several feet deep on the roof. I had used this Snow King vinyl sheeting for the bottom section of the roof and wall part of the GH, it didn’t work. We had a real bad winter with wind and ice mostly. I suspect the ice is what did in the vinyl, so much for the cheaper solutions, I should have used the Suntuf all over the GH.

I’ve visited FL several times when my parents were living there, I don’t like the heat down there. I guess I’ll always be a New England Boy. It’s hard to leave this place. I spend a lot of time outside and I just could not get used to being indoors most of the time.

We had a light frost the other night, burned a couple of my basil plants.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)

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posted 05-29-2014 08:23 PM

Steve,
That’s what great about this county. We have climates suited for everyone! I’m outdoors all the time, and at the beach also.

I checked out those Suntuf panels at Home Depot. $32. for a 26 in. x 12 ft. Not to high of a price as long as they do the job. And it looks like it did!

This week we picked our first tomatoes, Cucumbers and squash. The peppers are big and green but I want to leave them on the plant until they turn red. We also have two orange trees and a Myers lemon tree. We won’t see that fruit until fall. But we are still making lemon aid from the juice we squeezed from last years lemons.
I bet you can’t wait until your eating something that you grew! The tomatoes taste best from the garden.

-- Type-0's are normal for me! St Augustine Florida

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posted 05-29-2014 09:53 PM

Yeah, I miss the beach. I now have a Honda Element, would love to drive it up and down Ormond Beach. I call it my Dune Buggy.

I raise stuff inside and on occasion have a pepper or two from my inside garden. It nice to know where your food is coming from.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)

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posted 05-30-2014 02:32 AM

Steve, Is is hard to grow peppers indoors? What type of lighting do you use ?

We used to visit the beaches at Cape Cod but the water was way to cold for my wife and I. I did more people watching then swimming. The water here is just right and it’s only 20 minutes away. I have been looking for those old style aluminum lawn chairs that fold up. None of the store carry them any more but I found this web site that makes them and sells them. Made in the USA too! http://www.lawnchairusa.com/ We just bought two and they arrived today. We don’t like the ones that sit low, they are murder to get up out of.

-- Type-0's are normal for me! St Augustine Florida

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posted 05-30-2014 03:37 AM

I use EnviroGro T5 High Output Flourescent Light Fixtures. You would want to have a mixture of blue and red tubes for the correct type of grow light. The fixtures come with only the blue bulbs. The blue bulbs are 6400K and the red are 3000K. The 24 inch 4 bulb fixture will provide 8000 lumins of light and is rated at 96 watts. There is very minimal heat buildup from the lamps, ventilation is not needed with these fixtures. I bought my fixtures through Amazon.com. I built my own grow racks for my plants. My grow racks allow you to move the plants closer to the light. Commercial gro racks leave the plants in a fixed location and the light is moved closer to the plants. My gro racks have 2 tiers for growing plants. My arrangement allows the plants to grow up to 2 feet tall. I have had mixed success with growing the peppers, most of the time, it has been a learning experience. When you are retired and have no real goals in life, you take on hobbies such as growing stuff indoors to make your life more complete. If I wasn’t building greenhouses, planting a garden and growing stuff indoors, I would be sitting there in my lawn chair watching the grass grow. I always have projects in the works, so there is never a dull moment. It’s my way of filling the empty space of retirement.

There is a provincial park in Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada, the water at that ocean beach was the warmest, I have ever experienced. There were a lot of tiny crabs on the beach, which frightened one of my kids, but overall the provincial campground and beach were very nicely managed. I was there in the 90’s, so don’t know what it is like today. New Brunswick is primarily french speaking. For that vacation we should have gone to Nova Scotia, where everyone is English speaking.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)

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posted 05-30-2014 10:57 AM

Steve,

Thank you for the info about the lighting. I’ll have to give that a try this coming winter. We don’t get snow her but we do get frost and hard freezes on occasion.
About how you keep busy in retirement. I retired from GM back in 2000 and I have been keeping busy with all sorts of projects ever since just as you have. I must admit sometimes I do get stuck in my easy chair and watch too much TV. But then I get the bug to do something useful and then I’m busy once again. Trouble is is finish my project way to fast. I should slow down and make them last a while it guess.

We have St Augustine grass here at our house and during the hot months it grow so fast I need to cut it every 4 days sometimes. Seems everything grows fast here.
I just took a photo of our Hydrangeas and Rose of Sharon in the right corner. They are in full bloom already.

We have been eating our goodies for a week or two now, they are coming in fast.

-- Type-0's are normal for me! St Augustine Florida

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posted 05-30-2014 12:50 PM

Wow, the hydrangeas are beautiful. You will have to share the veggies with your neighbors or better still a homeless shelter or food kitchen, whatever there is for those who don’t have.

I treat my place like a mini farm, 2 acres is not a lot of space, but I got the garden, some blueberries and am thinking about getting an apple tree. I have several old apple trees here, they are for the deer that roam through my yard. Last night I could here the coyotes howling, so I was worried the deer might be in danger. I am still thinking about putting in a chicken coop, a lot of people around here have chickens. I have also thought about getting a family milk cow. First, I have to build a barn for all these critter dreams.

I like the doing the inside lights for growing stuff. Herbs are great to grow, parsley, cilantro, etc. A lot of people also grow greens, lettuce, spinach, etc. I am also thinking about growing broccoli and celery, etc. the stuff we eat here. Tomatoes can be grown, but you have to be careful in your selection of varieties.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)

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posted 06-02-2014 07:10 PM

Yes, every year our hydrangeas do very well in the spring and also about half way into summer. The heat gets to them and they get some kink of leaf spot problem. They are called Endless Summer hydrangeas, I give them sulfur to get them to turn blue.
Hope your deer are ok and those coyotes didn’t get to them. Sounds like you have many dreams and I hope you for-fill them all one day.

-- Type-0's are normal for me! St Augustine Florida

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posted 06-03-2014 01:17 PM

This week is sunny and warm, so have to do some more garden work.

-- Steve, Carmel, Maine, USA (near Bangor) (Hardiness Zone 5a)

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