GardenTenders

Greenhouse #1: A Vision

  • Advertise with us
Blog entry by MsDebbieP posted 11-08-2013 03:16 PM 2042 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch
no previous part Part 1 of Greenhouse series no next part

November 8/13

I have a plastic greenhouse and, although the door won’t close and there are some rips in it, it has served its purpose and inspired me to have a permanent greenhouse on the property.

I don’t need a giant greenhouse but something to serve the following needs:
  • environment for the starter plants, in the spring, for the garden
  • extending the gardening season in the spring for my lemon plant, cumquat, and fig trees
  • extending the gardening season in the fall for my lemon plant, cumquat, and fig trees
  • house my potted fig tree over the winter

Originally, I had planned on building the greenhouse in my “tipi area” that is near a power outlet and rainbarrels. However, I found that the “long trip” to the backyard wasn’t something that I made on a regular basis. I seemed to spend my time in the front yard. Also, I have initiated a new experiment, with a double layer of plastic at my front door (with the door removed). So far, the aluminum door and the two layers of plastic are keeping the cold out, the hot air in AND providing some glorious light in the house and for my house plants. (Oh how I hope I can keep the door off for most of the winter—loving the sunlight).

With this experiment, I have started dreaming of having a greenhouse right outside the door – easy access, southern wall, and access to water and electricity.

That’s the easy part—the dreaming. Now to make that a do-able plan that looks rather nice at the front of the house. Then to build it.. but we aren’t at the building stage yet. I have the winter to narrow down a plan and decide if, indeed, I do want a “lean-to” structure in front of the house.

Here’s an idea of what I want (site)

Ideas
  • The greenhouse won’t be attached to the house but rather a “lean-to” structure with insulation between the two walls to maintain the heat inside
  • We don’t have a lot of space between the house and the grape arbour but it would be enough to house the plants and put a shelf up on one side if needed
  • electricity is “just inside the door or I could rig up an outlet through the outside light that is at the front door, for heating purposes as required
  • there is a downspout at the edge of the house that would provide water for the plants
  • The base of the greenhouse would be covered with leftover pieces of metal roofing, tying the colour in with the new roof that I am still waiting for, but that is another story
  • I would put a door on the west side (I have some outdoor wooden doors… I wouldn’t want to block the sun on the east or south, so that means a west door)
  • I have second-hand windows, which of course won’t be consistent in size so we’ll have to be creative again as we did with the Cabin.
  • I want an automatic window opener on the top
  • I was thinking about having a magnetic cat door on the bottom – for our cat as well as for air flow
  • It would sit on a wood floor (pressure treated wood)
  • some of the windows would tilt open and be screened in, as we did in the cabin
Option 1
  • keep the greenhouse to the left, removing the firebush
Option 2
  • making the greenhouse more central – which would mean a much larger structure

Still Envisioning
It might not work… there might be lots of flaws to the plan… but I can dream, right?

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)



View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

gardening is a journey, a journey of learning how to connect with and support Mother Nature

Entry tags/keywords

View Blog Archive
Subscribe to blog entries (RSS)


By subscribing to the RSS feed you will be notified when new entries are posted on this blog.

Recent Entries


15 comments so far

View Iris43's profile

Iris43

3808 posts in 2286 days
hardiness zone 5a

posted 11-08-2013 04:05 PM

That’s quite the vision, MsDeb. Wouldn’t it be wonderful! With access to house with the door right there, it would be like a sunroom for winter months. That is something I would love too.

I don’t want to discourage you from your dream, but I can’t understand why you don’t use your wonderful cabin as a GH during the winter and seed-starting spring? It’s already there and it has lots of windows. I don’t know if you have electricity available there but outdoor extension cords are not terribly expensive.

Just a thought…......

-- 'To plant a Garden is to believe in Tomorrow'

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 11-08-2013 05:15 PM

although there are lots of windows, we created a big overhang with the roof and the sun doesn’t make its way into the cabin much farther than that front window.

If I had been thinking greenhouse back then I would have given it a window in the roof.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View Karson's profile

Karson

242 posts in 2535 days

posted 11-08-2013 05:59 PM

I would think of it as an enclosed “Front Porch” that has the capability to keep your plants alive during the winter.

The only house that I lived in in Canada has a full front porch with glass that was the full width of the front of the house.

-- Karson retired in DE e-mail karson_morrison@bigfoot.com

View JAGWAH's profile

JAGWAH

58 posts in 1239 days

posted 11-08-2013 09:11 PM

I’ve always liked these guys. I bought my roof vent opener from them.

http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?searchflag=1&page=_search&s=vent+openers&PageNum_newsearchQuery=1&varShowPer_custom=12&varOrderby=ProductId&varSorting=ASC&varColumns=3&f=1&mtype=2&enter.x=10&enter.y=12

Be sure to consider the height of the GH at the wall and it’s pitch. You don’t want to hit the roof with your storm door when you open it. Just thinking if all the times I’ve seen such little details missed. 8)

-- Just A Guy With A Hammer

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 11-08-2013 09:33 PM

oh how I’d love to have a full porch at the front of my house. I have one on the side, the east side, and it would be great except that it doesn’t get much sunlight throughout the day.

re: the door opening – I’ve already thought of that!! but thanks for the reminder. That would have been VERY frustrating, if we had it done and then couldn’t go in and out of the house.
Thanks for the link .. lots of options there!

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 11-08-2013 09:34 PM

if we do build one I think it’s probably going to be just a little one that starts at the left side of the door and goes to the window on the right. .. unless we dig up and move the grape arbor (not going to happen).

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View sharad's profile

sharad

1638 posts in 1873 days
hardiness zone 11

posted 11-09-2013 09:14 AM

That will be a good addition to your garden.

Sharad

-- Bagwan-- “If someone feels that they had never made a mistake in their life, then it means they have never tried a new thing in their life”.-Albert Einstein

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 11-09-2013 12:26 PM

thanks, Sharad
I think so. ... “if” it actually gets built.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View justjoel's profile

justjoel

1063 posts in 2036 days
hardiness zone 7a

posted 01-27-2014 07:15 PM

So, is this project done yet? I mean, it’s not like you’ve been doing anything else; right? :-)

Hope this comes to fruition, MsDeb!

-- "We are stardust. We are golden. And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden." Joni Mitchell

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 01-27-2014 10:18 PM

nope .. not even started.
the plan is still developing, although we are loving the ability to watch the birds sitting on the tree outside the window.. and if we had a greenhouse there, we’d lose the birdwatching.. hmmm

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View jroot's profile

jroot

5065 posts in 2286 days
hardiness zone 5a

posted 01-28-2014 12:19 AM

MsDebbieP, I would recommend the first suggestion.

You may truly like to have the fresh air through the window that otherwise would be covered. It would also give you more light which is essential here in Ontario, with our winters. Also, you don’t want to have any mould coming in from the greenhouse through that window to your home.

Bonus, it will cost a wee bit less. .... the Scot in me coming out. :)

-- jroot ....... Southern Ontario .......... grow zone 5A ...................."Gardening is an exercise in optimism." ....... . . Author Unknown

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 01-28-2014 12:24 PM

good points.
at this point the old windows don’t even open .. but we want to replace them and that changes everything
I guess my greenhouse is on hold.
hmmm

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View jroot's profile

jroot

5065 posts in 2286 days
hardiness zone 5a

posted 10-15-2014 05:42 PM

Any progress on the green house, MsDebbieP? I am still contemplating one.

-- jroot ....... Southern Ontario .......... grow zone 5A ...................."Gardening is an exercise in optimism." ....... . . Author Unknown

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14683 posts in 2656 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 10-15-2014 08:47 PM

no progress.. I heard “next year” mentioned.

-- - Debbie, SW Ontario Canada (USDA Hardiness Zone: 5a)

View Radicalfarmergal's profile

Radicalfarmergal

4305 posts in 1919 days
hardiness zone 5b

posted 10-20-2014 12:58 PM

Check out this video by Geoff Lawton featuring a greenhouse and garden in Calgary! If we are dreaming, why not dream of something like this?

http://www.geofflawton.com/fe/73750-a-canadian-urban-garden

-- "...I have nothing against authorities as such; I am only in favor of putting a question mark after just about everything they say." Ruth Stout

You must be signed in to post the comments.

DISCLAIMER: All views and comments posted by members are not necessarily those of GardenTenders.com or of those working on the site.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

LumberJocks.com :: woodworking showcase

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com